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Memoirs of John Lord de Joinville, Grand Seneschal of Champagne (Volume 2); Written by Himself Containing a History of Part of the Life of Louis IX., King of France, Surnamed Saint Louis, Including an Account of That King's Expedition to Egypt in the Year

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This historic book may have numerous typos, missing text or index. Purchasers can download a free scanned copy of the original book (without typos) from the publisher. 1807. Not illustrated. Excerpt: ... DISSERTATION XXIV. ON THE GRANTING OF ARMORIAL BEARINGS TO FAMILIES, AND RESPECTING SUCH AS HAVE BEEN GRANTED BY PRINCES TO VARIOUS PERSONS, BY WAY OF FAVOUR OR RECOMPENCE This historic book may have numerous typos, missing text or index. Purchasers can download a free scanned copy of the original book (without typos) from the publisher. 1807. Not illustrated. Excerpt: ... DISSERTATION XXIV. ON THE GRANTING OF ARMORIAL BEARINGS TO FAMILIES, AND RESPECTING SUCH AS HAVE BEEN GRANTED BY PRINCES TO VARIOUS PERSONS, BY WAY OF FAVOUR OR RECOMPENCE. At was likewife a fort of honorary adoption, which princes and kings have practifed when they granted their arms to be borne by different gentlemen, as well their fubjects as foreigners; for, as armorial bearings are the true marks of a family, fuch as are honoured by the permiffion of bearing them, ought, in like manner, to participate in all the prerogatives of that family. They are the means that have been chofen to recompenfe the actions of thofe to whom the granters wifhed to make fome return, and alfo to attach them, and their defcendants, ftill more firmly to their fervice. This * attribution de partie d'armoiries, ' according to Guy Coquille in his hiftory of the Nivernois, * fe fait avec diminution notable par changement de couleurs, ou diminution du nombre des pieces qui font es armes des bienfaicteurs, en forte qu' on peut connoiftre qu' Us ne font pas du Hgnage, mais qu 'ils tiennent par bienfaicV Princes have likewife often granted this honour as a mark of protection. For, as on the one hand, thofe perfons fo gratified with bearing the arms of the prince have a particular obligation to ferve him, from remembrance of the honour they have received at his hand, and to fupport the dignity of him, whofe arms they bear; fo, on the other hand, the prince is bound to VOL. II. C C protedt him to whom he has granted his arms, acknowledging him as one whom he has gained, and who, in fome fort, participates in the prerogatives of his family, the honour of which he is obliged to preferve. This privilege of bearing the arms, or a part of the arms of the prince, has been at all times confidered ...


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This historic book may have numerous typos, missing text or index. Purchasers can download a free scanned copy of the original book (without typos) from the publisher. 1807. Not illustrated. Excerpt: ... DISSERTATION XXIV. ON THE GRANTING OF ARMORIAL BEARINGS TO FAMILIES, AND RESPECTING SUCH AS HAVE BEEN GRANTED BY PRINCES TO VARIOUS PERSONS, BY WAY OF FAVOUR OR RECOMPENCE This historic book may have numerous typos, missing text or index. Purchasers can download a free scanned copy of the original book (without typos) from the publisher. 1807. Not illustrated. Excerpt: ... DISSERTATION XXIV. ON THE GRANTING OF ARMORIAL BEARINGS TO FAMILIES, AND RESPECTING SUCH AS HAVE BEEN GRANTED BY PRINCES TO VARIOUS PERSONS, BY WAY OF FAVOUR OR RECOMPENCE. At was likewife a fort of honorary adoption, which princes and kings have practifed when they granted their arms to be borne by different gentlemen, as well their fubjects as foreigners; for, as armorial bearings are the true marks of a family, fuch as are honoured by the permiffion of bearing them, ought, in like manner, to participate in all the prerogatives of that family. They are the means that have been chofen to recompenfe the actions of thofe to whom the granters wifhed to make fome return, and alfo to attach them, and their defcendants, ftill more firmly to their fervice. This * attribution de partie d'armoiries, ' according to Guy Coquille in his hiftory of the Nivernois, * fe fait avec diminution notable par changement de couleurs, ou diminution du nombre des pieces qui font es armes des bienfaicteurs, en forte qu' on peut connoiftre qu' Us ne font pas du Hgnage, mais qu 'ils tiennent par bienfaicV Princes have likewife often granted this honour as a mark of protection. For, as on the one hand, thofe perfons fo gratified with bearing the arms of the prince have a particular obligation to ferve him, from remembrance of the honour they have received at his hand, and to fupport the dignity of him, whofe arms they bear; fo, on the other hand, the prince is bound to VOL. II. C C protedt him to whom he has granted his arms, acknowledging him as one whom he has gained, and who, in fome fort, participates in the prerogatives of his family, the honour of which he is obliged to preferve. This privilege of bearing the arms, or a part of the arms of the prince, has been at all times confidered ...

31 review for Memoirs of John Lord de Joinville, Grand Seneschal of Champagne (Volume 2); Written by Himself Containing a History of Part of the Life of Louis IX., King of France, Surnamed Saint Louis, Including an Account of That King's Expedition to Egypt in the Year

  1. 5 out of 5

    Ian Miller

    This is an account of the Seventh Crusade written by Jean de Joinville, who was close to the French king Louis IX, who in turn was later made a saint. Basically, the crusade aimed to take pressure of the crusaders in Palestine by attacking Egypt. They took the port of Damietta, but then seemingly did very little, and eventually they were defeated. The most interesting thing about this book is the account shows very little evidence of any clearly thought-out strategy. The crusaders turned up, the This is an account of the Seventh Crusade written by Jean de Joinville, who was close to the French king Louis IX, who in turn was later made a saint. Basically, the crusade aimed to take pressure of the crusaders in Palestine by attacking Egypt. They took the port of Damietta, but then seemingly did very little, and eventually they were defeated. The most interesting thing about this book is the account shows very little evidence of any clearly thought-out strategy. The crusaders turned up, they fought, they got bogged down, and they sustained very serious losses such that when the critical battle turned up, they were in no position to fight it anyway. Basically, they had no replacements for losses. There followed a ransom once captured, and about a third of the total income of France for a year was handed over. The surviving Crusaders then went to Acre, and we see what was going on there, which was not much, then they return to France. There, Louis got around to some presumably highly needed reform, and he issued edicts designed to eliminate corruption. We don't find out whether they worked. Louis was very devout, and Joinville shows this clearly. A very interesting account of the times, but there is a little reading "between the lines" required.

  2. 5 out of 5

    ConnaCarol

    Fascinating look into the life of St. Louis (Louis IX of France), as told by his devout seneschal. A little too many anecdotal tales about the life of his seneschal for my taste, but I enjoyed the stories of the charity, simplicity, and faith of St. Louis.

  3. 5 out of 5

    Nicky

    An interesting look at what it's like to be King. The responsibilities, the challenges, and what a paradigm of a good king looks like in the image of St. Luis. I feel like I probably did not appreciate this text for all of it's worth as a classic in Humanities. But it was pretty enjoyable to me because it is one of those books that opens a window in time and gives a great sense of the culture, beliefs, practices, and traditions of a very specific time period and a very specific cultural point of An interesting look at what it's like to be King. The responsibilities, the challenges, and what a paradigm of a good king looks like in the image of St. Luis. I feel like I probably did not appreciate this text for all of it's worth as a classic in Humanities. But it was pretty enjoyable to me because it is one of those books that opens a window in time and gives a great sense of the culture, beliefs, practices, and traditions of a very specific time period and a very specific cultural point of view. This is especially true because Joinville is writing this as a memoir, meaning he is recounting his memories of these events exactly as he saw them. Of course, there will always be some bias, but his clear and simple reiteration of his stories is as clear and unadulterated a picture you can get of the events that transpired.

  4. 4 out of 5

    Tiffany

    Joinville's memoirs are old. Really old. And this translation is nearly 100 years old as well. So this book isn't really riveting for the modern reader, but I found it very useful for my research into the Seventh Crusade (although as you would expect, I think several of Joinville's recollections must be taken with a grain of salt). The notes are also useful, but not always focused in what I thought was the most obvious direction. Note that the Bibliotheque National du France has a PDF of a 14th Joinville's memoirs are old. Really old. And this translation is nearly 100 years old as well. So this book isn't really riveting for the modern reader, but I found it very useful for my research into the Seventh Crusade (although as you would expect, I think several of Joinville's recollections must be taken with a grain of salt). The notes are also useful, but not always focused in what I thought was the most obvious direction. Note that the Bibliotheque National du France has a PDF of a 14th century (perhaps older) illuminated manuscript of this book (in the Medieval French, of course), which can be downloaded.

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